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One of these is the sacredness of the marriage relation, to which both Inge and I had already alluded. This could tend to make it highly compatible with the Sabbath, which is also sacred. The other thought is the argument from silence. We are educated to be very careful in making such arguments. Nevertheless, it seems to me that, had God intended a prohibition here, He certainly could have communicated that fact through His prophets and apostles -- or Jesus Himself could have said something. After all, the Bible does warn us against self-imposed religion.

See Colossians On the other hand, there is always the possibility of general principles which ought to be applied in the absence of a direct command. However, as you pointed out, such arguments in this case have generally tended to undermine the sacredness of the marital union, and reduce it to mere pleasure seeking. Certain professedly Christian organisations have an unfortunate history of making sexual prohibitions such as celibacy requirements as a result of what seem to me to be some manifestly unhealthy attitudes toward sexuality in general.

I don't think we want to go there.


I'm glad you pointed out the importance of submitting to one another, and of being careful not to violate the conscience of a weaker brother or sister while seeking to please ourselves. See Romans The sabbath is sacred,marriage is sacred,sex is an integral part of marriage,we cannot separate sex from marriage,and marriage from the sabbath. I love how Jesus treated the Sabbath,it was never a burden,never a punishment where Christians in the developing countries eat cold food in the name of the Sabbath simply because they could not afford a hot pot.

This Bible is very clear in general concerning sex prior to any appointed or scheduled holy convocation that God has ordained. The real issue, no pun intended! The Bible tells us that whenever a Husband and wife have intercourse that they are unclean for a 24 hour period before they are hygienically clean and are permitted by God to mingle and worship with the assembled believers here is proof.

Lev And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. Lev And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even. Lev The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even. I know that these thing that I am presenting by the word of the Lord are not convenient and seem antiquated.

On top of all of this neither were the laws of sanitation nailed to the cross. These are the things in the Bible that we like to call grey areas.

How is having proper sanitation and hygienic etiquette ever antiquated? Pray tell? Here is proof, Exo "And said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee. Let us also not forget that Jesus also dealt with this very issue, and what would be for some a all consuming issue sex on the Sabbath, or "Lay activities".

Proof Luk "And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come".

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Have you ever wondered why he could not come to this holy convocation. What was so argent that he could not honor the Lord as creator and redeemer? Not only that Mr. Baker what we are reading in Leviticus 15 is after sin had already infiltrated the Kingdom of God on earth. Their primary propose of sexual relations was to populate God kingdom on earth with citizens of the kingdom by procreation. Adam and Eve Understood that the primary way to evangelize the world was by procreation. Here is another interesting point to note.

Every act of creation that God preformed during the creation week had been done prior to the Sabbath hours.

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Another point that has to be pondered is that Good is seeking only His own pleasure during the six days of creating His kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. On the Sabbath He is resting or celebrating the results of seeking His own pleasures during the six days of creation distinctly different than he does on that Sabbath, in resting for that type of labor. If we examine that fruits of God pleasure seeking it is all for the benefit of sharing his Glory with mankind. Why is it that all the things we see God doing during the six day are for man to have dominion over. It would go to reason that the Sabbath is given to man to solely acknowledged, worship and celebrate the commemoration of God laying that foundation of the earth as supreme ruler over us all.

The Sabbath is not give for man to have intercourse with himself Self center but rather for man to have intercourse solely with God, forsaking his own flesh.

Of all that you have stated, only Leviticus 15 texts could be deemed relevant to this situation. However, I am interested in why you've chosen to narrow the focus to only verses It seems to me that verses cannot be easily separated from the rest of the chapter. How then should we view verse 19?

Do we forbid all who now have "an issue of blood" from attending church? Should we? There are other verses in this chapter that will need to be addressed as well.

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Yes, maintaining sanitary conditions is still appropriate and recommended, but there are verses here which go beyond that. How should we handle the offerings that are required for an extended bout of uncleanness? Your application of Luke to that of a holy convocation is also intriguing. Lastly, I have a question for you: At what point in the day was the Sabbath actually created?

The Bible is quite clear on this point, although we usually read it and say it in a different way than Genesis records it. Andrew, I certainly see a sequence on the seventh day but I am having trouble determining the time of day. Could you please be a bit more explicit on the subject. See Genesis The Sabbath is essentially created because God rested on it.

The first Sabbath wasn't called the Sabbath until it was completed. I'm sorry, but this seems to me to be a classic case of deciding what one wishes to believe, and then trying to find Scriptural support for it. A man can rise no higher than his conception of God. If one sees God as a selfish being who could or would indulge in seeking His own pleasure, then how is one to have a proper conception regarding the purpose of physical relations within marriage? It appears to me that it is precisely this low view of sexuality that lies at the root of your error, brother.

We know that pleasure seeking is a sin, regardless of the day of the week on which it is pursued. Yet the marriage bed is honourable. God is calling us to a higher standard. Self-imposed religion has the appearance of wisdom, but it is of no value against the flesh. Nevertheless, if your conscience tells you to abstain on the Sabbath, brother, by all means do so.

Andrew S. Baker I have read your response. It is my pleasure to have meet you via the internet. Remember husband and wife are "One Flesh". The phrase one flesh activity would by default not be a activity that would include the Lord in and on the "Lords Day".

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The Bible clearly states that sex is part of the work that we are to do during the six working days in the week. Think about it God gives us six days to have sex, in the confines our work in the marriage union and we are too one flesh centered on the Lords Day to refrain? By way, that day does not belong to us. What gives?

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It is called the "Lords day" for a reason, it really belongs to him in totality. Another point that I would like to take up that you mention in your last communication. The Bible clearly tells us that the wedding supper is the official wedding supper of the "Lamb of God". How is this not a holy convocation? He prepares a table for us, He supplies a wedding garment,ant his own expense, and he even confers upon the guest the greatest honor that can be given to those that are born again, even the honor of The King.

What kind of gathering is this if not a holy convocation, pray tell? Another thing to be acknowledged in the very first Sabbath celebration on earth, that is never acknowledged. The Sabbath is not only commemorative but is it also the official Grand opening celebration of God bestowing upon humanity the privilege to commence the dominion of His kingdom business in the earth as it is in heaven. Just because you are not able to see the connection with the other scriptures does not mean that the text do not have any relevance to the topic. The Lord has set a president on how the Sabbath was created in how the other day were created.

This is very explicit in the text in Genesis 1. But remember the Bible says that "WE" as Laodicians are in a condition of continual blindness.

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So, not seeing would be in order with the Lords rebuke to you as well as me. I respect Andrew's silence in response to this post, nor do I have any thought of anything like answering on his behalf. Nevertheless, in the interest of clarity, I have a few comments to make in regard to some of the specific statements. How does our marital union on the Sabbath or otherwise bring glory to God? Answer: God is one. Just where do you find this clear statement?

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